Allies & Enemies
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Please read this before spying, attacking or bingo'ing.
Treaties/Enemies
BvS-UzukiBvS-Uzuki 1205617806|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Please do not make any aggressive moves against the following Villages:
Deadly
Dotaportal
Majinobi
Moon
Norse

Villages which we've attacked!
Blackfire
HOULS
Murder
D20

Villages that have attacked us!
Murder
Manifest
NerdFury
Blazon
Alt
Carebear
Incendium
Nijiiro
Tiger
DLP

We should try and permanently keep spies in the Villages that have already attacked us. Having done it once, I see no reason why they wouldn't do it again.

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OmnifoxOmnifox 1206067290|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Would you mind accepting Majinobi as an ally?

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BvS-UzukiBvS-Uzuki 1206067542|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

That's fine with me, so long as you reciprocate.

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argentargent 1206081818|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Moon village is currently seeking allies. What terms would you prefer?

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OmnifoxOmnifox 1206114216|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

no problem Uzuki. We only attack those who attack us anyway.

We hate NerdFury, Blazon, and Carebear as well.

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BvS-UzukiBvS-Uzuki 1206114275|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

An alliance with Moon Village is fine with me. Just don't send spies into the Wiki and all will be good.

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OmnifoxOmnifox 1206115515|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

as allies let us know if any village is giving you a hard time and we will… help relieve the stress.

oh and argent since we share an ally wish to be allies as well?

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argentargent 1206138206|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Omnifox, I accept your alliance. Same terms (no spying, no attacking, assist when asked)?

Edit: In case it matters, Moon has a NRF. If Majinobi and/or Wiki do not, we can offer limited aid (in the form of bingo'ing troublemakers, mostly).

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OmnifoxOmnifox 1206150806|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Majinobi also has an NRF so we are on the same level.

I have told my village of this alignment and if you need anything ask, we expect the same.

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argentargent 1206198361|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Sounds fair. Excellent.

How should I get in contact with you, so we won't be cluttering up The Wiki's forum?

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KrakenCultKrakenCult 1206205100|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Got your message and I am indeed interested in joining your alliance. Same terms as the others:

-No Spying
-No Attacking
-Assistance if getting slammed by other villages

Hidden Norse so far doesn't have a NRF, so there are some limits to whom we can attack when called upon for assistance. We'll be more than happy to offer what assistance we can though. Ask and we shall bingo. ^_^

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OmnifoxOmnifox 1206207659|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

1st - @argent I will look into making an "Alliance Forum" So everyone allied with my village can gather there. Once I have it I will post the link here.

2nd - @Kraken Majinobi would like to take you up on that as well. We need all the allies we can get regardless of strength.

edit: Ok, I have set up a bit of a makeshift forum. I kinda like it :P I will send the link out to the kages I know and representatives of the ones I don't. Please do not pass out the link. We want to keep things as discreet as possible.

At least until I get password function ability. XD

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KrakenCultKrakenCult 1206222209|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

@Omnifox - Agreed. Always good to have more allies. Same terms as with Wiki?

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OmnifoxOmnifox 1206227436|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Affirmative, I will send you the forum link.

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FaxFax 1206481731|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Okay, I'd liketo bring this to the table. Alt village has a large number of allies and I have an alt there (hurr hurr no pun intended) and in its sister village Hiro Gama.

I'd like to make an alliance with both if possible. However, this would put us at odds with the "Axis of Dumb": Andromeda, Tardis, Hellmouth, Seraphim, Star5 HQ, and Rasta, all of which (with the possible exception of Hellmouth) are powerful villages with NRFs. We would, however, have allies in Hiro Gama and Alt, and potentially allies in Red Dawn, Ghetto, Random, and Imaginary.

What do you think? Should I bring it up with the respective Kages?

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BvS-UzukiBvS-Uzuki 1206481967|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I've been thinking about it, but I haven't wanted to rush too head long quite yet.

I talk with Celeste of Imaginary quite regularly, and we seem to be on good terms. I was planning on putting it off until post NRF though.

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FaxFax 1206482338|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Okay. I think it's a good move, personally. The villages in the Alt/Hiro Gama/Random alliance are pretty strong and seem very well structured, while the Axis of Dumb doesn't really seem very organized.

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OmnifoxOmnifox 1206489340|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

seems like a good move for you Uzuki.

OmnifoxGE supports the idea.

Omnifox has a question though for Fax.

edit: I see, thank you.

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FaxFax 1206489417|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I've replied.

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GogoluGogolu 1206524407|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

@BvS-Uzuki: Have you read PM from me?

Thanks.

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BvS-UzukiBvS-Uzuki 1206545934|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Okay, I've got like 4-5 people PMing me now about alliance stuff and it's a little too much for me to keep track of. Truthfully, I think it's gotten a little out of control, as well. I'm very glad that the Wiki's Villagers are interested in this, and working hard to advance the Village itself.

Here's the deal, though. I haven't the time, effort, or even the desire to get the Wiki involved in some grand alliance at this time. I'm not going to join (or organize) a new forum for the purpose of coordinating attacks against other Villages or bingos against other people. I don't even think we have any enemies worthy of that at the moment. I also don't think that getting involved in revenge battles would be at all productive for the Wiki at this time.

We attack because we need resources, we bingo because people are trying to make the Trade. I don't see a need to go beyond that. If a Village would like to not be on our list of potential targets, I'm okay with that. I can add them to our list here. All that means is that I'll add a Village to a list of Villages that we won't be spying on (and by implication, bingo'ing or invading). All I ask in return is that you do the same.

I don't see any benefit in micromanaging beyond that.

If (and that is an if) post-NRF we find that we've become a victim of coordinated attacks against us with the intent to damage our Village (specifically, sabotage related attacks, not just resource stealing), then I'll look into getting involved in a larger alliance. Until then, I think a larger alliance would only get our village bogged down in greater conflicts than I think we need to be involved in.

Also, could people please stop contacting other Villages on my behalf without talking to me about it? That's not directed at any particular person, it's happened several times now.

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RuinicRuinic 1206573146|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Eh, let me point out something: Having allied spies in your village can be a good thing. You can ask an ally with The Trade to lifelines your village to verify the bingo'd status of your members if they keep claiming to be bingo'd (like, every day). Also, if you have advanced resources (after getting the NRF) and can't use them, it'd be better to let an ally take them. Allies can also help you get advanced resources by invading other villages for both, then allowing you to invade them. (This will help you if you try to get the Epic Monument.)

Also, I'll tell you right now that Imaginary has no plans to invade you after you get your NRF, even if we don't have any alliances/treaties with you. We have enough enemies, so we'll just take whatever we need from them. We don't need to attack you. (But, there's still a chance that one of my village members will get bored and randomly raid you. xP)

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OmnifoxOmnifox 1206590423|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

yes Ruinic all true but why is it I and another I am sure of have been bingo'd by ppl in your village? I was 30 hours ago. I have never spied on your village or anything. Just wondering.

Was it a bored guy? lol

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RuinicRuinic 1206609990|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

It was probably someone trying to get The Trade or The Note or something. ><

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OmnifoxOmnifox 1207046992|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

thats what I figured lol

I understand in Season 2 u have to go for it so…. it will get ugly soon XD

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BBBBBBBB 1207213537|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

By Fax: ''However, this would put us at odds with the "Axis of Dumb": Andromeda, Tardis, Hellmouth, Seraphim, Star5 HQ, and Rasta, all of which (with the possible exception of Hellmouth) are powerful villages with NRFs. ''

I was just wondering, my village has been allied with Andromeda even before I joined it, but as kage, I want to form an alliance with DP(where my alt has always been) and wiki village. Is the alliance with dotaportal and wiki even possible with our current alliances? We're small, and quite frankly, I don't want to get involved in their wars, even though Hiro Gama members have been picking on us.

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BvS-UzukiBvS-Uzuki 1207232900|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hiro Gama has probably been picking on you because they're part of the Random Coalition because you've aligned yourself with the Andromeda alliance.

Making allies with powerful villages almost always means you'll make enemies as well. No way to be friends with everyone when there are wars going on.

As of right now, the Wiki isn't really looking for more allies. It's already too much of a pain to try and keep track of everything.

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OmnifoxOmnifox 1207268849|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

thats why you should go to the forum I sent you :P

we keep track there lol

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BBBBBBBB 1207294269|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Ugh. I should really get the lowdown on who our enemies are. x_x

Don't worry, while I'd like to become allied with you, I think it would be too confusing considering the villages you're already allied with. I appreciate the guides, though. Thanks.

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Teh KazTeh Kaz 1207509784|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Can my village, Shhaadow village be a ally. Rocky my season 2 charector is in the mirage village and i have asked a couple of times if they could be an ally with my vilage, so if the alliance between Mirage and shhaadow form, then if Wiki village and shhaadow village form a alliance then you wouldhave mirage village as a ally also =D

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RuinicRuinic 1207514786|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Kaz, that's not how alliances work… They can ally with you and still be enemies with your other allies.

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Mark1Mark1 1207623141|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

When did the deadly village get on your ally list I noticed you weren't on our list and told my leader to put you guys on ours and nobody knew why we were on yours

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BvS-UzukiBvS-Uzuki 1207624533|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I thought Hungry spoke to me at some point?

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GogoluGogolu 1209551849|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Are we ready as a village for official alliance?

Few villages we have as allies are already in 'The BvS Alliance', Forum -> bvsunited.ipbfree.com/index.php?showtopic=19.

Could you check it out BvS-Uzuki?

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BvS-UzukiBvS-Uzuki 1209568321|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I'm not sure we need an official alliance yet. We haven't been the target of any real nasty sabotage events, and we have some really good villages as friends (Imaginary, Gaussian, Phoenix, the Void, Waterfall, and others are all really powerful Villages that we're on very good terms with). Since we're not really at 'war', I don't see the need to go beyond that right now.

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